Bought Some Lockpicks, Now What?

[Music] higher performance communication resources and faster and more reliable technology higher performance communication resources and F everyone had fun last night um so bought some lockpicks now what um kind of what I hope to accomplish with this talk is um so at a lot of security conferences you're going to see like lockpick Villages or you know lockpicking it's a related discipline especially with a physical penetration testing and what I hope to accomplish with this presentation is how even if you aren't like a security consultant you you just do security at your work your blue team stuff or even if you're just the IT guy and you wear many hats I think everyone can benefit from knowing about

lockpicking and being familiar with it as well as like um how it can you know make you more aware take a look around and see what kind of locks you have at your office um we're going to kind of stick to this agenda but it's going to be fairly open um if you have questions don't hesitate to ask them and I'll pretend to be able to answer them um so we'll go into intros explain some stuff do some disclaimers and legally stuff um we'll talk about the anatomy of the lock types of picks other um lock manipulation tools not necessarily pics but other tools and uh we'll do some demos and we'll talk about after that

we'll kind of shift gears and talk about security Consulting and ways um you know con concealing locks and lockpicks sorry just lockpicks so yeah if you haven't yet um next door is the lockpick Village um that's really awesome this is the first year I've seen it here at bside Salt Lake City uh it's really good they have some cool demos you can get familiar with it um try a bunch of different locks and I spent a time over there it's pretty good right after this they're going to be going over security pins we're not going to touch that too much here and then at three they're going to show you how to make your own bogat picks which I'm

going to mention here there's they're really cool lock picks so all right disclaimer um got some of this from uh to.org or tool. us that's the open organization of lock Pickers so if you're going to start picking locks you know don't pick locks that you don't own or don't have permission to pick and don't pick a lock that you depend on so like don't C your front door lock and mess it up so bad that your key doesn't work anymore you know go go buy some locks go to a dollar store you can get some easy cheap locks to start with um di Habitat for Humanity you can pick up some I mean locks are everywhere um this

is for educational purposes not to be used for criminal or malicious intents blah blah blah okay really quick um it's your responsibility to know if carrying and possessing lock picks in your area is legal um there's several laws about it um tulle has done lots of research for the different states but you know it's up to you to know your own stuff and if you want my professional legal advice I'm not a lawyer and offer none so don't take anything I say as legal advice and uh oh one thing I did want to mention about this with all the lock laws that I've read and research it seems like it's classified as possession of burglary tools and the main focus of

it is the intent so just shout out real quick other than lockpicks what are some burglary tools ham Hammer yep what crowbar crowbar yep slim JY slim JY the the beef stick or the car thing the car stick the car thing a brick a rock so technically if you carry a brick around you could be carrying a burglary tool but it all dep or what Mason or Mason yes if you're a mason or a poser Mason and just you know but you know it comes down to intent and you know here in Utah I don't expect you to read all of this but this is the Utah law um basically comes down to don't be

stupid don't burgle don't attempt burglar stuff like that so why lockpicking an infosec um the reason why is you know they they are related disciplines you know locks are literally a branch of physical security one of the 10 domains type thing and you know knowing how to pick locks you know especially if you're a security consultant um doing physical penetration tests things like that you can get access to a lot of stuff you shouldn't have access to like you know unlock terminals laptops and routers network devices you know um access to internal Network you can plug something in you know wiring closets usually aren't monitored um well I guess it depends where you're at um

you could even access a data center like you know always do this with permission if you do do this in an engagement just saying and access to satellite branches or whatever um one thing so physical security breaches can be as damaging as a computer breach in the sense that you know physical access is almost always better because you can just grab a server and walk out and then you can you know take it into your own home pull hashes you know get domain information you know um anyone know the going rate for a laptop on the black market with the data on it I heard it somewhere like some people pay like $14,000 if it's connected to

like a corporate account and has corporate data just so they can have the data off your laptop I thought that was interesting I don't have a source on that but I heard it once I did read it on the internet and they don't let anyone post stuff on the internet so um so continued um I kind of mentioned this earlier uh definitely Security Consultants you know red team people that are hired for engagements you know no lockpicking what about regular it guys how often are we in a server room and you know if our server acts are locked and you don't have the keys or like you know Bob the network guy is on vacation and the keys to

whatever is on his keychain maybe you need it maybe you have permission to get into that um don't expect you to read all of this but it's interesting how companies will invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in the latest nextg firewall equipment you know all this different stuff and then they'll protect it with cabinets locked with just dollar just like cheap hardware store locks and even basic rooms like basic door locks like well we're supposed to lock the server room so uh here's this uh generic brand thing lock in our server room kind of dumb this is a study done by uh some pentesters uh uh have this anyway they found that more than 50% of the cases

neither server rooms nor the racks were even locked probably for convenience it's just I don't want to have to unlock this every time I'm doing maintenance on it and uh they also do a lot of stuff for Latin America and they say Latin America is ahead and far Advanced when it comes to physical security around S&P markets and stuff like that and they're not as many breaches as in other countries due to the physical security that they have so you know understanding that take a look around your organization think about your server rooms like how important is your corporate data and how are you protecting it not only like you know Network and everything but physically

how are you protecting that stuff so kind of sum it up um physical security is something that everybody deals with um just by showah hands how many people's job is the security at your company okay I would argue that everyone's job is Security in one way or another like if you see something say something type stuff and you know especially like we need to you know due diligence say like hey that's a really poor lock that's really dumb I've got a couple examples here in a second um yeah but this is just uh something that uh HCK hack andv mentioned at the bsides in Orlando let's see and this is from hios at roted conon he says no matter what

security me measures are implemented phys when physical access is impossible or wow it's early no matter what security measures physical access is still the worst kind of access that you could lose so okay so how effective are locks um I have a good friend of mine he's a doctor and he he does pick locks and he got hired on and they were at their uh um their Urgent Care their after hours clinic and you know they had a medicine cabinet their company policy was you know prescription control substances keep it locked in a medicine cabinet and he was looking at it you know had like vikin and per ccoet or you know who knows what in it and he's like and as he

was going through he says that is a horrible lock and that is terrible he's like oh well we have to keep it locked he's like let me show you something he didn't even pull out his lockpicks he pulled out the little Swiss army knife keychain Swiss army knife and picked it with that and opened it up he like this is in the patient area we should really get rid of that cabinet or replace the lock cuz that is dumb you know just putting a lock there doesn't necessarily deter people another example how many people have something like this at their work where you have a key closet you know what what are the keys inside it to

what everything a lot of times they have this in custodial closets because custodians need to go in after hours and clean stuff you know what if you get in and access that what if it's where you keep all your motorpool keys and you know somewhere in your uh statement of work if you're doing an on-site and like access to corporate assets you're like well those are corporate owned cars I guess I could go park the cars in a big circle in the parking lot see if anyone notices CU it is you know but if you look at that that's protected with just a simple wafer wafer lock very simple you know so think about like how you're

protecting things and some people think hey if I see a lock you know it's going to deter me it's all on how you implement it if it's a really dumb lock or you're just dumb and you implement it poorly you know you're not going to stop some people thanks infos reactions for that one so why learn lockpicking it's easy everyone can learn lockpicking you don't have to have an awesome Linux background and hardcore emac like you know you've coded you know compile your own dist type stuff it's like it's a physical thing it's like anyone can learn to pick locks kids learn to pick locks um it's really easy to get a set of picks you can even

make a set of picks um there's lots of materials you can make them out of Hacksaw blades um street sweeper bristles the metal from uh uh windshield wipers and you can make your own it's kind of interesting and also locks are everywhere um there's probably locks around your house that you've never used like on cabinets and stuff and it's really easy to get locks um you can get them all over the place you can go to the local locksmith and say hey I'm interested you know do you have any locks you don't care about or locks that you've cut off and don't need anymore you know lots of places to get it excuse me so and another thing the reason I

want people to know lockpicking is to understand how vulnerable locks are to be able to take a look at a lock and be like that is not a good lock you know we should definitely invest the couple hundred doar or even the $100 to get a better lock to protect the thousands that we're protecting behind it you know due diligence um you know it's your job to you know speak up and say you know speaking from a security standpoint that should be you know better protected and then and then if you do have a red team um if you go on site and you have a team you should have at least one physical penetration specialist

proficient lockpicking as well as others um there's like under the door tools and you know shimming and stuff like that but if you do do engagements like that you should have at least one person profession in it so um we'll go over this a little bit I will explain the different parts of a lock so for those of you that aren't familiar with lock picking this is how a basic pin tumbler Works um the blue pin that you've got on top that's called the drive pin and then the red pin on the bottom is the key pin it's the pin that actually comes in contact with the key and the key pins are different sizes and

they match the uh the correct key and then um if you look from the top view which is what that this one is they aren't in a straight line like the holes aren't drilled in a perfectly straight line they slightly stagger a little bit and the reason for that is one makes it a little harder to pick not really but it also presents a major flaw so when I show you how to pick in a second the drive pins will actually catch above and the key pins will fall free and once all of the drive pins are set it'll turn and then when you insert the correct key basically what it does you'll notice the drive pins are

different sizes and the key comes in and then once they all line up on that line that's called the sheer line you're able to turn the lock basically what we're going to be doing with picking locks is getting it lined up on that and then turning it without use of the key so basic types of picks um almost any lock pick set you're going to see it's going to have these um first there's Hooks and fers this is for single pin picking where you would go in and pick individual pins hooks fer picks um J hook sometimes that's the thing there's lots of different names for pick so you know you can call it at least a

relatively understandable name um this is a snake pick or an srake shaped like an S and they come in very different variations some have like lots of squiggles some have like a half s and things like that there's a half Diamond which has a little diamond shape on the end there's full diamonds and full circles and things like that half ball um there's some that have two they call them a snowman anyway lots of different ones and then this one is especially for people who do like kind of a raking scrubbing type method it's called an L rake some people call it a saw rake or a comb rake it's not really a com rake or

a comb pick that's a different type of pick but so you know so you need a lock Fick and you also need a tension tool um any Lockpick Set you're going to buy is going to come with a tension tool because it's a necessary part um there's a couple different kinds these are like double-ended ones some are shorter somewhere longer if you have like a more recessed cylinder and then these Twist Flex they have a 90° twist in it and I actually prefer these over um I prefer these over the straight edge one because if you have a heavy hand they'll actually bend a bit more than just a rigid uh rigid tension on it and that's

good because you want to be really really light on uh how how much pressure you put um Peterson is a great supplier of lock pick supplies they have a Peterson pry bar and what I like about this one is it has a serration on the end so it doesn't slide out very easily once you have it in the pick and you can also pick it from the top of the pin or the top of the cylinder so you have all that real estate for your pick to go in underneath whereas most of them you put them in and you're kind of sharing that real estate with your pick and with the tension tool I'll show that here in the

demo explaining um how that works um Bogota picks so this is what they're going to be doing at the lockpick Village at 3 but these are basically the pcks can be either attention wrench or attention tool or a pick and they usually fold together they're really concealable they're really good picks if you're only going to carry like the bare minimum of picks those are some very good ones to carry um let's see other non-ps I'm not really going to go into this too much um for getting into cars there's these thing called Auto jigglers um you don't use a tension tool for them you basically like jiggle it in and out and you can open most cars um there's pick

guns a lot of people that don't want to take the time to learn like a law enforcement officers for example if they just need to get into the door they'll use these pick guns and a similar picking method is also bump Keys bump keys are Keys specific to that lock so like quick set schle master American but they have they're cut all the way down so there's just little bumps and you basically tap on them you bump them and it'll cause the drive pins to jump up and then you can get in um if there's time I have a little extra thing to show on that it works on the same Principle as like a line of billiard balls you hit

the ball and the one on the end pops so that's how the pick gun and the bump Keys would work um there's also shims like Slim Jims and things like that uh plug spinner is a locksmith tool like if if you can't pick it One Direction You Pick It the direction that would end up locking it and then you use a plug spinner to spin it so fast that it goes past the reset point and doesn't reset the pins and then there's other tools that are non-pi this is like an under the door tool um did anyone attend the uh physical pen test shop last night the workshop did they go over this at all I

didn't attend it but so basically this is this is something that you stick under the door and and uh you you have the little cable part and the ADA Compliant lever handles you can go right under the doors and then you know pull it and it'll actually open it and you can open the door from the inside yay for a compliance but it's an interesting tool but those are non-p picks not going to cover those um couple different types of picking so there's just you know you have your hobbyist like I lock pick you know I pick locks for fun you know some people considered an art it's quite an art form you know this way um there's also quick and dirty

which you know learning that you almost always start out doing like some sort of raking or scrubbing the lock kind of thing jiggling is where you're just like shaking it and hope you get lucky sort of thing um fruit Force um not NE not necessarily a type of picking but like you know some locks you can stick in a screwdriver these are very cheap locks stick in a screwdriver and turn it and it'll like pop the pins or whatever and you can turn the cylinder Force um carding the lock that would be like shim or something you know come and just card the actual Shackle in the door sort of thing um yeah covert entry um so this is

like highly specialized stuff like you're very familiar with the alarm system and you're very familiar with the locks or what they have in place and how to bypass them and I'm not going to cover that stuff because I don't know much about it so this is basically a single pin lifting or um single pin pick s PP um this is good to start learning it the key to lockpicking no pun intended is really being able to feel inside the lock and because you can't see inside it and being able to feel like okay is this one pushing a little harder than the other ones it's probably a taller pin you know and because if you remember

they don't line up the holes don't line up in a perfect line so that's why even though you're picking it above the shear line it doesn't quite set it's probably not the one perfectly you know offset enough like the other ones are so you know you just go through and you try the different ones and if there's no nothing pushing back then you know it's set like you don't feel any spring pushing back then once you get them all um picked because you have tension on it it'll twist and then you've got the lock open so that's uh single pin picking see and then this is more like raking and scrubbing type stuff this is

where you'd have your different rakes and you know you kind of just shove it in you kind of get it and kind of goes this this works on a lot of locks some of them like um some people will actually like get it in they will they'll quickly scrub the lock and set like three or four pins or something and then they'll switch to to like a feeler hook it it it's really like what works for you kind of a thing so yeah scrubbing a lock stuff like that so time for demo um let's go to see and now I will get this

going hey that's my face okay so coming down here I'll show you oops okay so this is a transparent lock so you can actually see the individual pins I'll hold it up like that you can see the individual pins you can't see the key pins very well and then then what you're going to want to do is you'll get your lockpick um this is one that I carry with me every day this is the um RCS Tool Company um jack knife it's very very good um you can get it from Southern Specialties I really really like this one um this locking lever kind of works like the uh Forks on your bike securing the tire so it locks

it in place and these picks don't move they don't wiggle it's really nice uh standard comes with you know eight different picks um I really like it so I'm just going to go do a single pin picking I'm going to pull out my J hook and then lock it in place now you can see this is not going to move yeah it's in there good comes with the tension tool so basically um this is what I was talking about earlier you're putting your um tension tool inside it's more ideal sometimes depending on the lock really to put it actually up above and then you have all this real estate in here to put your pck

whereas a lot of times you're going to end up putting your tension tool inside the lock and then you have to share real estate with it um so I'm going to try to do this okay everyone see that okay it's upside down but it's easier to pick that way so basically I'm just going in and I'm pushing up individual pins just like in that uh animation earlier and then once you get it like they're all lined up and I felt it kind of move and I just move it the rest of the way and you're in does anyone want to see that again one more time one more time awesome so actually this time let's do

it instead of doing a single pin pick let's just do a scrubbing type pick I will actually use more often than not I use an S pick cuz I learned first by scrubbing and you know single pin pick is good because once you get a better sense of what your fingers are telling you the inside the lock is but for the for the most part you start out with this so picking it upside down again but you know this one you can just kind of push it in you can you know very similar you know put it in move it in and out kind of thing get it working and um starting out I suggest you get a you know some cheap

locks as well as some clear transparent one you can get them on Amazon um hacker Warehouse they sell them um Scam School has some different places um first lock pick I ever had was this south or jack knife they don't even make this one anymore they make a metal one but I picked probably over 300 different locks of this thing and it just wore out over time I've been doing this for about 10 years and um similar thing it's great it's everyday carry it's on my keychain you know it's great stuff but sadly I wore this one out I loved using it but let's see um now I would encourage if you're if you're serious about this getting a

bigger kit getting some different stuff this is uh this is my first big kit I got it's a south south or MX MPX s62 um I have some recommendations at the end and south or doesn't pay me to say this but this has lots of different tension tools you notice how it has uh lots of different feelers it has bunch of different picks like that and a lot of times you do this long enough you'll notice that you'll actually start carrying a lot more tension tools I've G given a bunch away out of this kit so I don't have as many and have a couple different things and really it depends on the type of lock you can become

familiar with locks some people have gone through and said you know with this type of schlag we recommend using this sort of Lock and things like that you know it's a really good kit I've been pretty happy with it it's bulky it's heavy you know it's like a very fat wallet you can get starter kits for like 15 bucks 20 bucks stuff like that um sck your I sort of stick with my favorites it's sort of like teaching teaching yourself you know piano or something like that you do what's what works for you which you're familiar with more often than not I uh I use my spck I use one of these two feeler picks I use

this one which is pretty standard this one's kind of a reacharound pretty curved pick very slim um and then I use the half Diamond quite a bit so I let's see so the ones I use

are these so these are probably the four most common picks that I use um I only use this one kind of like in and out set the picks and then I'll switch and do like the half Diamond so I can get like the individual and not bump other pins that are already set kind of thing but really you know try a bunch of different logs get proficient one of the things I like to do um I actually have a big set of pad locks that are just locked you know onto each other and then while I'm watching TV you know I'll just be sitting and I'll just you know not thinking about it just go through and

pick the different locks it's it's kind of good because sometimes if you're focusing you're like really like pushing too hard and oh that's one thing I did want to mention so tension is like super important for one tension you can feel kind of the different clicks once you set the pins so I don't know how well we can see so that's about how much tension you want if you're pushing so hard that you can start seeing the blood run out of your finger and it's white you're pushing way too hard it's surprising how little you have to push um Iron geek Adrian kensaw says think of it like you have a pet ant and you you want to pet

that ant that you love so much but you don't want to squash it so you're literally pushing that little bit on it so if if you just can't get it or if you're pushing and like none of the pins are moving your your tension is way too way too hard um a lot of times I'll use my index finger to push however if you're starting out it's a little more awkward but push with your pinky if you're if you have a heavy hand push with your pinky like it's so much lighter and easier um there are some like you pick the other direction and you know I'm right-handed so you know use your thumb but then again your thumb is one of your

strongest fingers and you have to really let up something to know um let's see switch back over to this um so now let's switch gears for a little second um we have like different so you're going on engagement and maybe you're going to a secure facility um they don't let you take cell phones or something like that there's lots of different covert picks um Rift Recon makes some gentleman's bogatas they're really kind of dapper looking bogat picks um I got a on on the next slide um fake credit cards I'm sure you've all seen this before um it's a fake looking credit card that is actually a sleeve for lockpicks inside it um this this is

a very interesting one this a penetration tester in China um named sexy cyborg she made shoes for her on-site engagement she's a physical pentester and then these gentlemen covert picks that I'll talk about in a second so here are some pictures so the guy with the lapel um probably can't see it too well but those are two Bogota picks pressed up against each other and he has a little spring from inside a pen and a paper clip or a safety pin and you can pin them on your lapel you can pin them inside your pant leg so like you can sneak them in lockpicks you can sneak them in a lot of places especially if they're Titanium because typically

titanium won't trip a lot of metal detectors they're more expensive titanium um has anyone seen these lockpick cards um they're cool they're they're fun to carry around in your wall tool makes a really good one I'm told I actually don't have it um that's Kevin mitnick's business card that he gives out to people they're they're great um you know but once you pop them out they're used and you can put them on a key ring or whatever and then that's a picture of the lockpick credit card which doesn't look fake at all you know card owner is James Bond expires January 2003 so no one's going to notice that it is about two to three times thicker than

a standard credit card so it is a little bulky but then again it's it's reusable like you pull them out it's not like you snap them out you can't snap them back in you just put it back in the sleeve so this is a these are some shoes some platform wedges now I didn't have a picture of her she usually wears like a mini skirt cocktail dress and a very low cut um top and that's what she does all her engagements on so she has no pockets no places to hide you know a bulky Lockpick Set type thing so um for a lot of her engagement she actually designed these she 3D printed them and um inside it she can put her

wireless router that she can plug into the network and then access remotely and then on the other side she has you know her key logger she has a little you know extension thing and then she has a couple set of pics and some tension wrenches and she also has a padlock shim I didn't talk about padlock shims at all but and she all of her engagements that's what she brings she doesn't bring purse she a lot of times she has to check in her cell phone I mean you can hide padlocks or wow you can hide lockpicks in your cell phone case like if you have an external case I've done that before so really clever um she goes

through and explains how she did it it was it was really cool really inventive um so some of the problems this is a that's a picture of one that I have here with me so this is a lockpick um card that I got it's actually a sear card it's like a survival evade resist Escape card so it has like some padlock some uh handcuff shims and stuff too let get that out of the way sorry and then you know it was cool tried it out but the thing is like as soon as I popped it out the first thing I noticed like it's very small but also the little tabs where I had the uh where

it was connected were really sharp I didn't like that I didn't and it's a onetime use thing this the tension tool was flat so I actually had to bend it at a right angle to use use it and it came with just you know your standard filler and rake I mean it's cool for in a pinch as like throwaway picks and that's kind of what they're intended for one onetime use um switching back so some problems that you might come across you might be at a facility where you know there's metal detectors and your steel picks you can't get them in you know titanium would be great if anyone can think of a non-metallic material for lock picks I'm very

interested um carbon fiber at that thickness isn't strong enough it's almost like a dry twig like it might work as a pick but as a tension tool it'll snap almost immediately I you know maybe some kind of you know G10 or like some sort of polymer or something I don't know this pet project of mine trying to think out good picks can take up space um granted if you're going to take if you don't know what you're expecting you want to be prepared so you might end up having to take a big you know bulgy you know Lockpick Set I avoid it when you can but more often than not have something small concealable um if

you can I actually went to a courthouse and you know they caught me for this and I was like oh good good catch um also um lockpicks are approved are okay with the TSA because it's a a tool that a non- bladed tool under seven inches it's okay to carry on board you still might get you know the you know power hungry TSA agent be like oh you can't take that but anyway so you know um wallet cards onetime use you know sharp snap-off tabs um granted I have I have this one I'm told the tool one is very very nice I want to get that and probably doesn't have the tabs as much um how many uh Mission Impossible

fans do we have the TV series one two so this is from uh season 7 episode 6 this is called underground basically he's uh captured and he's in a room where they take take his earbud they take his you know empty his wallets take take his uh Pockets his uh belt everything and you know he's in there luckily he had his 1970s wide collars and so he could fit so he actually fits a full length pick in it so for perspective that's a fulllength pick and this is my neck so I mean if you have 19 7s callar you're good granted you have the business end of the pick usually pretty sharp like inches centimeters from your

juggler I don't recommend that but yeah if you're doing an engagement you have a 70s collar go for it um hide in plain sight you can get these on Etsy right now um they come in pink and fuchia a variety of colors but they're earrings so if you want to wear Circa 1980 shoulder dusters awesome you can have some lockpicks now if anyone's familiar and and I think you know a security professional should be at least familiar like if they see something like that looks like a lockpick why are you wearing those you take those off you know maybe you're at a place where they're totally clueless I don't know but you can get those on Etsy they're

like 35 bucks um so this was kind of the thing I was thinking about I was up late one night thinking like how can I make a reusable lockpick that would be cool and you know easily concealed small and this this is just something that I was trying out and I want people's feedback but I came up with these things I'm calling them gentleman covert picks the you know patent pending by the way uh got the domain name last night but anyway um these are some lockpick collar stays that I designed a little while ago um they're nice they're easily concealable comes in a set of four and you fold them over each other and those familiar with

collar stays you know you fold them like that and they fill out the shape of the collar stay um Dapper classy it's kind of James Bond is fan boys would totally heart this um Ultra concealable I mean even if you don't wear a collared shirt um you can hide them in your cell phone case you can hide them in your wallet um these are steel um if I do Mass produce these in Market them they'd be available in titanium as well um so yeah um I make them with a CNC machine I have a machinist that makes them for me does a pretty good job and uh I'm actually wearing them oh demo time so yeah you'll

notice they aren't the full length on so it's not going to stab me in the neck it's just like you know it's good four inches away and so I designed these let me switch over to this again so I carry these just because I'm trying them out I'm right now I'm just in design testing and stuff like this so what you get is you get your three picks this isn't a sales pitch by the way but if you are interested talk to me um I really just want feedback like if this is a good design pick is it practical I've got a couple sets of them here so I'll have them over at the lockpick

Village if you want to try them out so anyway comes with a your half Diamond your snake pick and your L rake and then also a tension tool I went with kind of the hockey shape hockey stick shaped design because if it was a straight 90 degree angle sometime this part would get in the way of the lock and I wanted it kind of angled like that so time for demo fail um so very minimal you know bogatas would probably work better but this is a fun little pet project I didn't want to do um like a straight type tension tool because I didn't want to do something like this um because I prefer the Twist

Flex because this one has no give whereas this one you know you you can bend it a bit and you you have a lot more um forgiveness I guess you can call it but basically you know very similar and I've tried this on a couple different locks and seems to work fine but you know come in here and if you want to get good at lock picking do it in front of an audience by the way so your nerves can be like totally shot or whatever and then you know just oh oh oh so still still in the design stage but this is something that I thought you know it might be sort of fun see if

there's a market for at

all okay let's try a different one that's the thing if you're starting out with lock picking like sometimes you might be real comfortable with a with a certain type of pick and it just for the life of you it is just not working with that lock you should be able to use a bunch of different locks you know basically more um tools to Your Arsenal okay come on now these do work I promise did it this morning before I got in front of people oh stop

it maybe yeah this is why we don't mic the audience let's try a little better again still in demo stage by the way but can you guys still see what I'm doing I'm not even great oh I just picked it and it popped out embarrassing anyway uh you get the gist um so still these are prototypes this is still something I'm still designing I'm still you know I'm interested in people's feedback this is something that you know you could I don't know bka to picks are nice these are you know Dapper classy whatever you want to call it but

so hey it does work all right everyone take a drink so anyway that's a little pet project I was doing um if you're interested you can talk to me afterwards about it I'm still designing it um okay recommendations um how many of you do have lockpicks just by show hands maybe about half how many are kind of interested going to look into it after this talk yes I accomplished something um couple different sets um southord makes some really nice picks the pxs 14 has it's a 14 piece lock pick thing it's it's a lot Slimmer I think I saw one at the Village yesterday um if you're going to have an everyday carry type pick I highly highly recommend this

one from Southern Specialties the uh this folding knife um they call them Jack knives I really like it and when you order it you can actually pick which um picks you want in it so if you want Euro style or things like that um I recommend this one because I own it you know it's it's nice it has a lot of stuff it has both um thick handled which are more comfortable as well as just the uh thin I think they call them thin lines picks as well Peterson pry bar um I'm pretty active on the uh lockpicking subreddit they Rave about this thing I mean it doesn't slide out very easily I've actually thought of integrating it

into mine but it's it's a really good pick you want me to go back for that okay um recommendations so these are some great websites where you can get more information about it um tulle is probably one of the best uh open organization of lock Pickers um lock Wiki Schuler town southord is a supplier um southord they are better quality locks sometimes when you're looking at locks you might notice that it looks like they just took a hacksaw blade and they kind of cut it out and they're sort of serration on the top what you want is like a really smooth one that's smoothly cut out something to look for when you're looking at lock picks um

Southward also has a clearance section so um scratched or blemished picks you can get them in a discount because you're going to stick them in a metal lock anyway and scratch them so whatever uh the subreddit is really good also um two guys that I follow pretty closely um Iron geek and deviant olum they have some cool um lockpicking videos deviant teaches that black hat iron geek puts up all the a bunch of security conference videos and he's really into lockpicking I actually sent him a set he he and I have been uh communicating um so that's all I had does anyone have any questions I think we got 15 minutes or 10 minutes yeah

Thomas

do you mean like like the padlocks like the uh have the different dials type things or do you mean like an actual dial lock on a

safe oh okay I know what you're talking about so he's talking about are the combination locks more secure and the answer is it depends um there's a Master Lock right now that has it's got the 10 it's got the four pin and it has the 10 digigit numbers on them or you roll them and then you pop it open that actually has a bypass flaw in it so I didn't talk about bypass tools those are basically like picks that you would put like along the number tumblers for example you can actually reach and flip the uh or like catch the release lever and pop it open um that Master Lock one has is a known

vulnerability actually um on my this tool or on my lockpick card so on this um this is a handcuff shim but you notice how it's a point I wouldn't take this on a Plane by the way because they could argue that that's a blade I would take this but this is can also function as a bypass tool it's very thin you can actually put it between those tumblers and go in and disengage the catch release so um something to consider uh yeah it really just depends there's some that are great there are some that are not secure at all but any other

questions so the question was what's a good lock and actually here in the extra section um this is deviant ol's list um this is what he uh said he recommends these are different um locks uh scorpion get a schlake Primus um they have a instead of the they have the regular tumbler pins but they also have a security pin in it um I'm not covering that but at 11 they are um Albus um basically any kind of uh they're called sfic or sfic um it's a small format interchangeable cylinder they're all good locks um Mr locksmith he has a lock he's a locksmith based in Canada he has a pretty active YouTube channel but he says the abloy protect 2

high security deadbolt is the best lock you can buy for deadbolt he's it's pick resistant he argues it's pick proof the reason why it's been out for like a year or so now there are no known vulnerabilities there are lots of people trying to pick that and no one has been able to he puts it on his he he says it's unpickable until someone has done it but no one's been able to do it so if you have 175 bucks do that medos are good so I don't have any slides of that but if you look at a Medco key you'll notice that a lot of keys like they're just cut straight on so you put the key

in it's cut straight on Medco keys they actually make the Cuts Like This the reason why is the PIN hole instead of like a circle like this it's actually flattened and the pin has to be twisted a certain direction before it'll go up Medco keys are really nice like they're a bugger to pick so um yeah those are some that they recommend I haven't tested them all out but they have so hopefully that helps any other questions cool I do have a I did mention Auto Jiggler I do have a set of those up here there are somewhere but so you'll notice this isn't a tension tool type thing you literally put it in and you

just kind of Jiggle It and most car automotive locks are a double-sided wafer lock which is similar to a pin Tumbler lock but a lot weaker and you can see how easy it is to get in it really depends and you just kind of You Pull It in and out up and down and you twist it slightly they're that easy to use um downside is you can't really most cars are shipped you can't really steal a car but you could get into a car you could get the registration info and find out where people live you could do all sorts of creepy stuff um I didn't mention bump keys this is just a little image of how bump Keys

work I have a setup here um bump keys are cool those that consider art pick or lockpicking an art kind of you know they're like this isn't picking this is just burglar manipulation like lock manipulation stuff um anyone can do this the downside to this if you're trying to sneak into a house you're literally knocking on the door you're trying to sneak into it's very loud you know you get a screwdriver handle or they even have special like Mallet to sort of things so you know there are bump Keys interesting stuff but um yeah oh that was a picture of a cell phone I used to have but I used to carry those with me and I just use the

srake but yeah if there's not any other questions that's all I had um yeah thanks guys [Applause]