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Paul Braren Security BSides Boston 2013 - Build Your Own VMWare ESXi & Microsoft Hyper V-Lab At Home

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"Build Your Own VMWare ESXi and Microsoft Hyper-V Lab At Home Using Affordable and Efficient Hardware" with Paul Braren at Security BSides Boston 2013 in Cambridge, MA All video links are available at http://www.bsidesboston.org and http://bit.ly/BSidesBOS Twitter: https://twitter.com/bsidesboston Website, Biographies & Agenda: http://www.bsidesboston.org http://www.securitybsides.com/w/page/12194141/BSidesBoston http://bit.ly/BSidesBOS Don't forget to follow us on Twitter at @bsidesboston or tweet to us about event using #bsidesbos Video created and edited by Peter Larson (c) 2013 http://vimeo.com/user4206417 Posted by Roy of Security BSides Boston 2013 Team
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good morning welcome to session two uh track two i mean 10 20 question uh paul brown has worked for ibm since 1995 and a wide variety of amazon consulting roles most involving intel based server installations experience includes over a decade of virtualization deployments using ibm hp and dell gear at a variety of customer sites across america his role included designing and deploying customer software tuning labs data centers and classrooms across the globe including secret clearance sites only paul is currently working as an ibm xiv technical advisor with dozens of connecticut and massachusetts customers ladies and gentlemen albright

thank you this is a lot of fun being here frank quinn invited me we were at a uh microsoft music group a little while back uh a year ago he was like paul do you think you could give a similar picture it wasn't a pitch it was a live demo action that's what i did that's what i'm going to do again today and i'm going to try to do it over on the verizon lt for a bit of security so i'm going with a hard wired usb kind of figuring the placement and then i have the size you're going to see is a home lab that's temporarily set up and my focus today is going to be mostly

life alone that's powerpoint i'm not selling anything i've been doing i'm going to use the graffiti so i worked at ibm welcome 4 i worked there for a decade it was a data center with a big glass wall like this helped manage the server room there that was a lot of fun working with software developers who come to us for two days for two weeks from 95 to 2005 and uh recompiling the 32 to code getting rainers going bench parking tuning all for free so they love this that was a nice job but finally now i'm working out of my home office in central connecticut like motorcycle connecticut and it's a great opportunity after flying around about 30 of the 50

states to finally be able to work from home and meet customers right in my home state all around me doing uh xrd story work partly after all that flying all the time in hotels with giant 17 laptops and a 17-inch laptops with a raid zero array for my d drive for built-in speed for reason rights and style state from ac drive i tend to apply a lot of hardware i really care about being small i cared about being productive and fast when you're a consultant at customer you have to get vmware up on 14 blades and one leak flat including seeing the sand and all that that's what we do we fly with stuff help

bracket stacks launch the firmware install vmware make sure we install the linux and windows os on there shows how to deploy some templates how to put it on the sand and then fly out of there friday did a lot of that it's a lot of fun working with customers most of them probably not so much like in the room where a lot of them right out of college and really never played with linux in their life so not that i'm really an expert at it but it's just showing the basics over the ropes of when you install hyper-v back in 2006 unlike excuse me when you installed microsoft hyper-v you don't need to know you know

much about command line really back in 2006 on vmware esxi you kind of did even just moving a cd image into the infrastructure i'd be teaching the ropes when scp putty those basic little things that pretty much you guys probably know all right all right the other luxury of being at home finally working from home is i started a website uh two years ago tinkertry.com and there i have over 300 articles probably 10 percent of them about virtualization and other tips and tweaks and tricks so just a quick shout out to that again it's not selling anything it's just stuff i've come across in the field but also some of the articles are pretty well read as far as uh

getting a certain raid controller uh by lsi working on vmware when you're a homebrew enthusiast making something yourself you're not really supported and a lot of the stuff you've got to do yourself and that's what the website is a lot of it is about a lot of the articles just kind of focus on how do you get going when you have support you're doing all the work yourself so today's presentation will be here tonight my presentations super guys try to pull together a bunch of my different articles like vmware there's a lot to it right from booting the machine configuring to boot off of usb cube and you install a usb key last weekend getting ready to come

here today i installed vmware's esxi 5.1 update one that came out april 25th anyone in the room plays the vmware and everybody knows this i'm going to show a hands anyone aware of that you're actually that much into vmware you follow that they came up with a new release one guy okay so most of you are it's good to know of the audience a bit not rocket science really getting going installing a usb key for me i pulled out my production usbq which is my vmware bait as i'm playing with shut it all down and then just stuck in a little 20 usb key and went ahead and installed esxi 51 hacked the host files that are a

real dns at home and just got ready for this presentation about two or three hours on a saturday not that big a deal to rebuild your infrastructure if you want every 60 days the license keys on a free trial of vmware's free hypervisor that you can yellow just google vmware free hypervisor you'll get a nice ice loaded download you boot off the iso install it on a usb key it reads off the usb here your operating system is now up that's the basics to go and get going with vmware today i'm going to go a bit beyond that of course and show you some live demo of the results that once you've all built up

okay so just quickly what kind of audience this is the kind of user groups i tend to attend i was at a vmware user with convention center at hartford just last tuesday gave a similar presentation there was about 300 it professionals there and like five percent of the people are familiar faces and actually customers of mine too but a lot of guys like me we play around in evenings and weekends it's our hobby too not just our day job right so certification is key like even giant companies like ibm it's getting harder harder to justify travel and get the vmworld every year and even getting going with certification it's a tough sell when it's taken still

at least three grand for that one week class to get going with vmware to be bcp vmware certified professional very basic level kind of like mcse was back in maybe the late 90s with microsoft there's tens of thousands it's not that big of a deal anymore but it's still three grand you can pass the test you're not going to get the little diploma until you take the more response move on but that's where a lot of people try to build home labs when traveling the country a lot of people said i have limited money i have maybe a thousand dollars or some hand-me-down server at work what can i do efficiently and that's the other thing we'll get

into efficiency a nice efficient server so for me these things were important and i want to be able to do them 24 7. i had enough of horsing around with vmware playing with vmware player or workstation on a laptop and only do so much in a laptop and you run out of steam you need memory and desktops even a core i7 a modest machine from two years ago that i built where the machine itself with memory of 32 gig of ram under 1200 and then a serious rate adapter from the price up to 2200 still that's a remarkable thing you can do with about 20 200 bucks leaving it running 24 7 it's using about

120 watts even with seven hard drives it's not that big of a deal two light bulbs so compare that to a dell hp ibm server you might get hand me down for work with dual power supplies ecc memory loading up 16 slots that thing is like leaving two thirds of a hairdryer running in your basement roaring away that's a thousand dollars electricity a year i'm not going to do that i couldn't do that it didn't feel right and after years of that you can hand me out stuff that you just can't leave running i figure i want to build this i want to just have this running and also back up all the machines in my family flash

forward today i've got 12 machines backing up every night they wake up in the middle of the night half of them are not in my home they're over at vpn back up whatever change from the day before they go right back to sleep it's using windows server 2012 essentials previously known as windows hello okay move on when certification or when you're finally working at home kind of good to have something that you can do this is physically what might happen to look like there's a whole lot of options just 120 hour case happens to get a whole lot of driveways fans up here with filter and then six more drive bays when i replace the

traditional five and quarter slot you can stuff six odds and drops which run cool you don't even need to worry about fans it was actually fans in this enclosure i just pulled the fans off it's like i don't need the noise in the water those are all solid states so old hand-me-down solid station three four years ago they get stuck in the esxi platform why because it can happily move vms at will storage emotion how many people know what vmotion is in the realm just okay but so at least two-thirds of you have played with hyper-v or vmware or something where you've moved from one server to another well in a home lab like this where it's all in one unit

you're just moving from one disc to another but when you thin provision on a solid state you can fire up windows 8 windows 7 linux they're only using up eight to 12 gig on the solid state you can jam a lot and one 120 gets the outside that way you just didn't provision it the operating system the svm thinks it has a terabyte you just lobby and tell it when you think it does and then you just keep an eye on the storage so you don't fill up these drives and but that's physical space which i've done in vmware exchange quite well no corruption ssds don't handle it so great because then they'll slowly film on your site

all right so next slide all right need noise power we talked about all that if you like to fiddle great i'm not trying to convince everyone in the room that fiddling or building your own machine where you're inserting the cpu in the socket putting in the memory dimms with your thumbs if that's your bag great if it's not dell reef or hp or ibm whatever hardware gear you're probably going to want to buy like a tower workstation class thing rather than a server thing for re for a three-year-old discount or something right if you go five years old you're probably gonna run into trouble and burn way more watts than you should so that's just some general advice

but running either vmware or microsoft type of v the hardware's got a lot less picky you don't have to be nearly so choosy a whole lot more drivers built in these days if possible you still want to pick something that's on a supported list from those companies but that's not always possible so i suspect a lot of folks in the room are kind of like me you don't mind it so much when things go wrong when it's on your own systems you can learn from it you fix it you don't necessarily want to spend all your free time evenings and weekends fixing everyone else's problems and if you've already solved in your own world and you don't really care to reinvent

the wheel or even you know help someone with a hose laptop you're a lot better off just covering your self and your own precious time with daily backups like someone hoses a machine i'll roll it back to the night before before they host it and enjoy the rest of my saturday start traveling last night it should be good movie by the way that was a lot of fun all right um so that's me all right pow and we talked a little bit about that obviously running a variety of servers so the folks in the room linux you're trying to run juggle a lot of operating systems and you want to play with maybe virtual networking i think i'll focus the live

demo on that i'll just show a hand we'll decide what do you want to click on with the mouse where are we going to set up today in the live demo i'm kind of thinking networking might be your bag you might want a private network you might want a public network you might want both you can do all that with one two three physical nicks on your home machine that's where it gets pretty cool whether it's hyper-v or vmware there's a lot you can do to kick the tires on security software and just like you have apps for your phone while you have the virtual marketplace from vmware to download a whole lot of freebie apps whether it's an iscsi or

nas device you download the appliance you point your browser to it to administer it and now you're learning ice doesn't appliance in the weekend simulating left-hand networks or iscsi but there's lots of appliances like that to learn teach yourself as it was okay and then finally uh the demo there's different bits some of these you can be interested some not so much but just pointing out affordable is the focus here right this raid enclosure i showed you on the picture screen upper left corner that thing is affordable that's 180 bucks in the upper right corner there so four drives push a button on it it becomes a raid 5 device it stripes and handles the parity

it's been running for two years in my basement and another one in my mom's basement will be doing cycle site replication off-site storage my personal cloud right there's some stuff i have no desire to put in any kind of other cloud dropbox others routinely getting security issues so off of the back of this commodity consumer stuff like usb 3.0 not really so well handled any on hyper-v for microsoft or with vmware but it's getting there i can touch upon that but basically you can pass through your blue usb 3.0 cable to a vm and say paid virtual machine windows 2012 server essentials you now have dedicated access to this usb 3.0 device upcoming device manager it sees it you

can format it as five terabytes one rain array five terabytes that's key currently vmware a couple people several people don't know you have a two terabyte for vmware right so you can get around these things you get a little creative and that's what i like horsing around with getting something working and i can't find anyone else on google talking about and then just typing up an article about it it's just fun because the feedback i get and it fixes when i make a mistake folks will let me know very quickly i put it right there in the public if i pull the questions they're right in the front page anything you comment it's right there for the world to see within

two minutes here's a bunch of links that'll all be uh with the presentation tonight all right so i'm going to get right into the demo um i'm going to start with the first one just to convince you we are live so i mentioned i'm going to show you a live webcam view let's just start with that so the setup first of all personal hotspot mode yes whether your android ios whatever some sort of sharing i'm using the usb cable so i'm not using anything wireless and i tested the speed out there and i still have two bars so if the speed is not acceptable i might have to cut over to their guest network but i

always try to go wired network if i can next piece vpn so i'm using uh logging try not to get way too much there but there's my vpn so anyone familiar with log me and amachi only one two people okay um a nice way for me to do a public demo like this with private ips like 10.10.1.5 which means nothing as far as getting into my home um important little parts but more important for me it's just an always-on persistent way for my kids machine away at college to back up every night elsa is a little mac mini whether it's booted os 10 or dual booted to windows or running a virtual machine up windows with vmware

fusion it doesn't matter that they can back up every night over vpn so matchy is a free way to do that and there's a os there's actually on linux for that too it's a way for you to join multiple machines at different household family members you might have and have them all able to paint each other magical in the nutshell that's much so i'm using that partly as the glue to hold this thing out so i'm going to public you know 4g yes 4g lte verizon network right now and then i've got my vpn going so let me go ahead and ping my router at home and just uh makes myself this demo will work and it

looks good so i'm on my home network please all right my dhcp server home is my router it's leased this laptop an id address for me to have machi working here that's how it works it just passes the way through so printing network shares all of it just works all right the vsphere client this thing's kind of going away by the way and they're trying to move folks to quick client this is the ugliness you deal with in a home knife that doesn't look too red in this room but that's a bright red right that's chrome warning yet um yeah when you don't have real dns like you do at work or in a test dev lab at

work if you have a workplace where you can horse around with hardware there you probably have a real dns serving at home you just have a cisco or nickname or linksys or some sort of router just any of these you can also most people and that does pose some challenges whether it's hyper-v you've got to do the active directory thing or vmware because you gotta kind of deal with this annoyance but you know what if you're just doing kind of trial ware or rebuilding or horsing around you deliver this stuff it's not that big a deal to work around especially if you're rebuilding the machine every 60 days or something i'll just point that out

all right so there's the the future of vmware is through the speed sphere web client but yeah it's got drawbacks and some speed drivers so for our live demo i'm going to stick with what's faster

so we'll have to see if we get decent speed if we don't i have port forwarding setup and a machine doing a remote desktop connection that's at home so i'll use that as my jump box i'll hop into that machine with my desktop and then there on the local subnet it'll point to the vcenter server and come up that speed looked reasonable the login takes about how long you've been in the iphone so i think we're good we'll see okay again today's focus is not on licensing it's always up to you to follow you and use the license agreements many of you have enterprise licenses at work you might have 365-day trials from vmware rather than

somewhat rather cheesy and annoying 60 day that the rest will get so that's up to you to deal with but once you have it going you just saw 55 days left in my trial i already said i installed this last weekend there it is in the bottom right there's no smoke and mirrors here this is esxi publicly available 5.1 this build number refers to what came up april 25th so this is what it looks like and in my case i automatically start some dms all right um the one i wanted to show you that's probably easiest to get going with would be this one when all kinds of information about it there's that private ip at home so yes

it's 10.1 now 120. two virtual cp's have been given to it there's my house name and there's the host that it's running on i just simply call esxi all right now and you can also see it's actually running on a sata3 ssd so we're going to get obviously decent speed rebooting and so forth so if we open up the console there's one way to do it it's shoveling all this over hamachi we can also do this overall desktop connection we'll see how the speed goes so lovely last year there was some windows updates uh usually it's patch tuesday right right here with some updates thursday night anyone read what that was about i never even bothered to look but yeah that's

the windows world you guys can all laugh with that but all right we can reboot but you'll see it should reboot rather fast we're on a solid state drive right and to give you a little more uh elbow room let's open up console full window and it opened up a little desktop sorry those dual desktops going here i didn't miss much all right what are we going to do here yes you can um want to manage to windows 8 is you can just slap in any old usb cam and the driver set is pretty huge for finding the driver no logitech or anything you just shove it in it's going to work thanks for a quick demo

but how do you assign usb to your virtual machine

so i'm looking at the properties of the vm hit dm edit properties i added a controller to it so that a usb 2 or 1.1 controller is added to the virtual machine so that the device manager sees a usb device and then i pointed and said you know add my usb device so right now i already added the logitech webcam it's already in use but these are some other devices like the cyber power yes that is for automated shutdown you just click next and attach it to the vm so we can actually uh yank that and uh reinstall it so we're almost there any questions i want to show you so far just some of the basics that i'm trying

to show you commodity consumer stuff is getting easier with these enterprise products that really are not meant for home taker nor are you supported in any way from vmware or frankly from microsoft if you're using pepperdine on support as well yeah question the machine the servant this is all writing around his name esxi can you describe it i saw obviously base of hard drives solid state and how much memory did you say

so the question was what's the physical configuration i briefly showed you a teaser picture that's the motherboard there's the four dimensions it's not eight right it's not server class xeon that costs twice a lot more it's just a core i7 askrock motherboard the reason asus and msi did not support passthrough everybody talked about pass-through and moving the usb through to a vm it didn't work on those other motherboards who who to thunk it you wouldn't know it it was crippling on the web did you search for this in march of 2011. so i started my website in june of 2011 is one of my first posts got it working here's the motherboard brands that actually work that are affordable under

220 bucks that sure beats the super micro or time which admittedly have great features but are going to cost you a lot more when you put pcc memory there i then waited a year for the price to go down i think i got the 32 gig of ram from g-scale to 54 damn slots at i think it was about 200 bucks 230 so that was key so this article kind of gets into why i picked what i did and it even gets into little things that ended up being important like new power supplies tend to wanting ups that doesn't buzz and how when you use it so if you have an old apc lying around you plug in a

new pse power supply or factory production power supply it'll give off a weird cause and come and not be particularly uh compound so this article lists all the parts and the memory let's see what they cost today yeah it's well under it was under 200 kind of just waiting for a decent price any other questions about physical hardware yeah uh so all these parts still readily available yeah it is two years later it's getting a little harder some of them uh what there's your memory oh it's still 230 price doesn't really change and uh over at amazon we'll see a different price okay it's interesting no pressure six new yeah it's weird they didn't even

pick one just showing me all of them yeah the price is higher in amazon interesting and then i used one for 190. all right um so yeah the question is can you still buy all the parts no it is two years later the thing is let me show you this article there's something kind of interesting going on i'll go to just my homepage the root here scroll down and show you um as well right so you're starting to read about as well in the next chipset from intel well again it's consumer focus here we go unfortunately it looks like here we are two years later since i built the machine and you're still stuck in a four

excuse me 32 gig four dim configuration they really want you to buy a xenon if you want eight gym slots it's strange because there was a z77 motherboard a year and a half ago that had eight slots for enthusiasts it's all a little weird i don't know what's gonna happen yet none of this stuff's really shipping for you anyway i'll have to watch the space but that is a good question when you're shopping if you were to build one today it'd be kind of nifty if it was built on the latest cpu and chipset at all and right now it looks like intel is kind of pigeonholing you into four dimm slots and when you read the spec sheet

even if they do come out with higher capacity memory chips to go to 64. the chipset won't support it you're still stuck at 32 perhaps kind of artificially maybe keeping you to try to get you over to xeons and have server class if you're really trying to go to 64. because really you must be doing virtualization down the camera right it's kind of rare you can have when there's some windows or anything i should use that i comfortably juggle this many evms uh was that i got actually this is my temporary build usually i have about 12 running we can um kind of look at this little solarwinds training that i've logged about and it gives you

a rather nice view that you can run sit running leave running an assistant track admittedly it is a windows utility only but it's showing me there's my vmware version how much cpu i'm using right now 11 and um i'm showing you a centos instance that's the appliance i downloaded from cyberpower i bought 120 ups from amazon plugged in the usb cable downloaded a appliance from cyberpower for free plug the virtual usb cable like i already showed you guys how to do and now it powers lost in my house which has been freaking the last two years since you guys know what other other things happening it automatically shuts down all the virtual machines and then the

esxi itself shuts down gracefully and then it just turns off the recovery kind of important when i'm using things like a solid state caching raid controller that catches reads and writes you don't really want an abrupt purple screen of death or nastiness happening you kind of want to do a bracelet shut down so those little things very data center concepts the way you protect your data at work home that's kind of what i enjoy doing all right i have two questions actually so yep i'll keep doing it i'll set up for demo while you're talking so first what's the load time you actually have with the power supply you currently have at home to have

everything virtually shut down so yeah it's a 600 watt power supply it's only using 130 when idle it only goes up to like 160 if i bang away at the virtual machines and hit their cpus really hard with some benchmark utility yeah the runtime is like seven minutes not that long but it only takes me about two minutes to do automated shutdown okay from when the usb cable goes out my phone immediately peeks your house is going down yeah and it's all shut off within about two minutes all right that's pretty efficient alright the second question i had so you built the hardware two years ago and you obviously had to have some sort of guideline

of how to put this together so now go up two years ahead to current date what are you using to the future upgrade to if you need to build a new box you know i'm saying obviously arrange that stack with the motherboard you know that's something that you were unaware of right now you know so outside of you know perform

yep so good points uh i'll repeat the question so the question was if i was rebuilding today what are the things i'd watch out for to make sure i pick a motherboard that i like a couple things change one is the sxi four one and five of supported pass through the usb 3.0 card i bought a pci card so here's a card in the slot pass it through okay by the way that's a live view of home i'm trying to convince you that uh we are live here and if i can get the camera showing yeah 52 minutes after the hour and there's a second here you're looking at live video for my home 110

miles away that's the server there's the sata drive the ssds in there there's a usb slot on the top that's going to the webcam that you're viewing right now and there's the raid enclosure i told you about a little light telling me raid 5 is fine i can also monitor raid health as well so if it goes funky and drive has died windows is easy for all these commodity products to do vmware hyper v you got to think a little more and make sure your phone's going to alert you when you're driving so it was little effects but back to your question about shopping what would you do on a motherboard passing through usb doesn't seem to be

vmware's focus i'll say playing with 505.1 they broke it and they moved from 500 to 5.1 and it played with some more recent builds including this update one and the pass-through still doesn't work so great let me show you what i'm talking about we're going to point to the esxi host when i say host i'm talking about core i7 physical machine with 32 gig of memory click on the configuration tab and then click on

okay up here we've got properties and i'll just point out that um to be filled by oem asteroid didn't bother right they don't really expect you to be throwing vmware in there they've been further branded and they should have whatever normally would say ibm hp dialer or server class fbn all right but um under advanced settings direct password this just broke um had this working great the previous ones you could point to your here's my usb card it's all for these usb cards it's got four little fast media chips that's on there controlling usb controller you can just click click to click assign them to a vm or assign two to one vm and two to another all

worked in 5-0 broken sense what does that mean that means ass rock asus msi and gigabyte probably that just shot for l4 again it wouldn't really matter as much i don't have to look for that funky feature i was looking for anymore because it seems like they might be dropping it that's one thing is that a big deal no because what helps you break the two terabyte boundary of future versions of vmware and hyper-v and this stuff kind of goes by the wayside you know you support usb 3. all right so i don't think it's a deal breaker it's just right now we're in this lambo face because this stuff's not out and i have no compelling reason to

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another motherboard in the house i have an identical adult yeah i think you can guilt but it's getting doing other fun stuff yeah you know what i'm saying now good point it's good to have gear like that and i did kind of think to the future meaning if it broke we'd be buying a new gaming system and i get to hand me that motherboard because i had an identical motherboard just slip it in this thing and have it running within a minute so that that worked for me and i had two of the same motherboard in the house giving a little peace of mind that i can live out more than two years because you

know it's gonna corrupt yeah it's commodity stuff any other questions these are awesome questions this is fun um times are i missed five okay finishing up the demo i barely showed you networking so i do want to go networking time right here what are we looking at hopefully you can see from the back row fairly well here's a physical name right i click on properties damn intel 82 572 gigabyte giveaway ethernet controller all right there you go that's one there what's this other one i've got over here if i slide on down

real time that's one of the ones that came with it on the motherboard i actually have a second one um so more important why do i have two and what am i doing special about this one why did i call this one vpn well you remember i started mentioning himachi is the glue that's holding this whole devil together that's how i'm connecting to home and all that well there's a little piece in there so we look at the virtual switch think of it as software ethernet switch running in my hypervisor stack your security tab it says promiscuous mode except some of you in the room know what that means but basically it's accepting kind of forged packets the way himacha

is working if i didn't turn this on same deal with hyper-v by the way there's an analogous setting in there you're not going to get an amachi vpn appliance at the end of any running that i call tunnel it just said in this case that would work it just you tried it you tried to connect it wouldn't connect those are the little buggy moves the little things where you're going away and you just trying to get it working my site does try to solve that with these super goods trying to say hey i'm wearing soup to nuts i have an hour and a half video on everything from shoving that's dvd and setting up the bias to

boot from the usb key installing usb scenes configuring editing the host file throwing a few isos in there and installing windows 8 it's all in an hour and a half video on youtube and uh it's long and a little dry i don't really cut it but i try to keep it moving the whole time and by the end of the hour and a half you'll finish yourself this isn't rocket science you can do it just takes a bit of you know time and effort i'm sure you don't go through all the steps that you have in your video every single time you set this up you have automation scripts that you write here to get these pre-loaded

anytime you rebuild an esxi well i hinted a couple things i said beta testing something i do anyway and 60 day trials and if it only takes me an hour to set up i don't actually bother scripting although i should but if i really had a scripted deployment in esxi which would be a graceful way to make it less of a nuisance when the 60-day time bomb runs out now we need another machine and again i was trying to reduce like six machines they had running in my basement down to one so i just haven't bothered and spent my needs and i don't do it that often frankly it wasn't until the last two months i stored i was horsing

around there for 22 months straight yeah it wasn't a big deal yeah great question chefs can you give us some guidelines based on how many etms running about this what kind of hardware are you yep so um what was the question the question was about uh how many vms you want to run simultaneously and what kind of hardware you want these are might be loaded you have this 10 year old t30 lenovo laptop that fit the dust back when it was ibm branded actually when it hit the dust the hard drive was okay i pulled it out cloned it to a vm and let it live as a virtual machine a uh a ghost of its former self with no

physical laptop running anymore but the hard drive and it's old apps that were locked to windows xp would never license or move along can now live on it's a personal cloud for you know one of my family members it uses up let's take a look you'll see how much memory is in use very little so let's get it there wrap up the demo and the question was about how much memory is he using how many would you want to try to juggle take a look at the resource allocation tab so yeah if you like fiddly bits and knots twist and turn vmware and hyper-v you'll enjoy playing this stuff it's using about one gigabyte all right

there's actually a decent sized app running on that thing left running right now what does that mean well you can easily run 30 dms at each of them we're only running 512 mega memory i heard medium vmware do a lot better memory sharing that any cert client side oracle virtualbox or vmware workstation whatever handle on the laptop this is the beauty of leaning and running on a decent server in your home with 32 gig of ram you can just double click and quickly connect to these games you don't have to worry about something like that i guess uh that was it one

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